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Author:  Demostenes [ Sat Feb 28, 2015 18:55 ]
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Informace o vzniku ESQ vyvolala spoustu emoci a dojem, ze E1 bude vypnut. Zajima nas, jak to komunita vidi a ceho se obava.

Author:  4154 [ Sat Feb 28, 2015 19:34 ]
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Hlasovat nejde (The submitted form was invalid. Try submitting again.) tak se vyjádřím normálně.
Bojím se, aby ESQ nevzal hráče z Endoru, ale je taky možné, že hráči přijdou zkusit ESQ a dozví se nějak o Endoru a pujdou to zkusit tam. Možná to bude větší plus pro Endor, protože ESQ ma potenciál přilákat více hráču než kolik kdy na Endoru bylo a tím se jich víc podívá na Endor.

Author:  aargh [ Sat Feb 28, 2015 19:56 ]
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Author:  Never [ Sun Mar 01, 2015 1:03 ]
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Author:  aha [ Sun Mar 01, 2015 11:47 ]
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Musím se k tomu vyjádřit hrajeme tady většina vice jak 7 let a určitě to nehrajeme kvůli grafice. Kdyby sme chtěli hrát nějakou 3d hru hrajem wowko nebo něco takového. Nechali sme na endoru tisíce hodin hraní a neradi by sme se stím loučili.

Author:  Tomak [ Sun Mar 01, 2015 13:34 ]
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Author:  Albos [ Sun Mar 01, 2015 21:03 ]
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Zkusim, uvidim ale myslim, ze na E1 to mit nebude :)

Author:  Saura Delgurth [ Sun Mar 01, 2015 21:19 ]
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Taky zkusim.. Pokud mi to pc schroupne ^^

Author:  Xan [ Sun Mar 01, 2015 22:55 ]
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Taky doufam, ze mi to schroupne zelezo a ze za ten rok, dva na to bude cas. Tesim se, i kdyby to mel bejt ciste Endor ve 3D. Treba se dockam i doladeni demorpha;-)

Author:  Fr4ncs [ Sun Mar 01, 2015 23:27 ]
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Jelikoz jsem milovnik starych her tak by me docela mrzelo kdyby skoncil... kdyby skoncil endor.. tak zakorenim uz jen u doty2....

Author:  aargh [ Mon Mar 02, 2015 1:17 ]
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Author:  saum [ Mon Mar 02, 2015 11:41 ]
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Emulatory su opensource. A urobit si vlastneho UO clienta je minimalne tak 20x lahsie, nez urobit si celu vlastnu 3D hru. Dokonca aj Manawydan to zvladol. To ste sa fakt rozhodli pre ESQ koli tomuto?:)

Author:  Demostenes [ Mon Mar 02, 2015 11:46 ]
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Author:  aargh [ Mon Mar 02, 2015 11:51 ]
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Author:  saum [ Mon Mar 02, 2015 14:57 ]
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Demo: Asi si malo hladal. Manawydan uz roky bezi vyhradne na vlastnom clientovi. Viacere shardy momentalne bezia na starom Krrios clientovi, ktory bol vo vela veciach lepsi nez orig client uz snad 7 rokov dozadu.
Nedodelanie "endorskeho" clienta moze suvisiet s tym, ze si z teamu vyhodil jedineho cloveka co na tom robil :).
Ze neuspesne projekty su zly priklad, by som urcite nepovedal. Prave naopak: ze taky malicky a neuspesny shard ako Manawydan dokazal uspesne urobit svojho clienta, je pekne indicia ake realne uskutocnitelne to je.

aargh: POL nebol opensource, ale RunUO bolo. A RunUO bolo uz vtedy "kompletne". Minimum bugov, velmi pekny a upravovatelny kod, schopne utiahnut tisice hracov na vtedajsom HW.
Manawydan clienta urcite mozes videt v provozu. Normalne sa tam s nim hra (orig ani nie je povoleny pokial viem). Vsetko asi implementovane mat nebudu. Ale nie preto, ze by to bol problem. Proste tie veci nepouzivaju. Viz napr custom housing na Endore. Nejake bugy to pochopitelne bude mat, tak ako kazda hra. Aj orig client ich ma dostatok.

Btw neviem o akych specialitach uo protokolu hovoris. Uo protokol je uz davno takmer kompletne zdokumentovany. Jedine co chyba, su zastarale featury a featury novych clientov (ktore sa na free shardoch moc nepouzivaju), pripadne nejake drobnosti, ktore sa daju bud ignorovat alebo lahko uhadnut.

Author:  Tomak [ Mon Mar 02, 2015 16:51 ]
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Jak uz bylo receno, napriklad onen Krrios ...

2 shardy jsou funkcni se Salos clientem( UOForever a UOGamers: Hybrid).
Hodim video na ukazku, sallos client je plynulejsi, ma hezci efekty, ale taky je narocnejsi na vykon (ale nijak extremne).

http://youtu.be/zSP1kf91YeA

Author:  Demostenes [ Mon Mar 02, 2015 17:10 ]
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Author:  Gereth [ Thu Mar 05, 2015 20:51 ]
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Nemyslím si, že bude E1 vypnut. Není důvod. Jeho provoz není příliš drahý a na ESQ pracují odlišní lidé. Navíc je třeba brát ohled na komunitu, která by byla zřejmě dost namíchnutá a tedy nepříliš ochotná se stěhovat na ESQ.

Nemyslím si ani, že ESQ je z dlouhodobého hlediska přímou konkurencí E1, budou to dost odlišné hry. Naopak jak tu již padlo, E1 může v případě úspěšnosti ESQ benefitovat na případé medializaci.

Nicméně kritický může být pro E1 počátek ESQ. E1 nemá extrémně velkou hráčskou komunitu (kolem 100 ve špičce) a je dost pravděpodobné, že spousta hráčů (nebo dokonce celé guildy) půjdou to ESQ kvůli vazbě na E1 vyzkoušet. Po nějaké době se to pravděpodobně srovná a troufnul bych si říci, že většina se vrátí. Otázka ale je, za jak dlouho a jestli se ještě budou mít kam vracet. Tyhle věci mívají kaskádový efekt. Pokud se srazí status, hráči, kteří zůstali, budou demotivovaní a postupně můžou přestat hrát take. A ti co se z ESQ budou chtít vrátit, nebudou mít motivaci, protože na E1 nikdo moc nebude. A v případě E1 neexistuje (pokud se uměle nevytvoří) žádný impuls, který by lidi nahnal hromadně tak, jako v případě spuštění ESQ.

Mimochodem nelze hlasovat. Píše mi to, že můj hlas byl neplatný.

Author:  Demostenes [ Fri Mar 06, 2015 10:57 ]
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Author:  Juniorek [ Fri Mar 06, 2015 19:07 ]
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A server zkolabuje, že? :D

Author:  aargh [ Sat Mar 07, 2015 14:50 ]
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